M1911a1 rebuild stamps. There are other types and locations of rebuild marks.

M1911a1 rebuild stamps. Markings seem crisp and edge/parts wear seem to be even overall so it doesnt appear to be a buba job however I could be wrong. Feb 19, 2020 В· I have a 1944 shipped Colt M1911A1 in the 1628700 serial number range. The lower left side is stamped United State Property with JMG stamp just above the Mag release. I believe the barrel that is in the gun is a bit earlier. With 1911/1911A1 pistols, the serial number determines the date of shipment. The High Standard barrel has an excellent bore with bright, strong rifliing. Feb 3, 2021 В· Please post your questions and comments regarding CMP 1911 Sales here! Welcome to the new 1911 sub-forum, we at CMP 1911 / CMP, appreciate your support. No rebuild Arsenal stamps Dec 7, 2005 В· Rebuild stamps are usually initials like AA for Augusta Arsenal, on the left side of the receiver in front of the trigger. Most rebuilds have plastic stocks, but there's nothing wrong with wood grips. Jan 10, 2016 В· It could also be a collection of parts that was refinished at Joe's gun shop or in his basement. Downey stamp is one of the few circular stamps that often had a careful hit, but production was also lowest and slowest, 55,000 in 11 months. You heard correctly, many rebuilds are seen without an arsenal stamp. Mag looks like a Scoville contract. I think they meant it was made "in the 70s", I think, not 1970 specifically. It has the correct GHD Ordinance Inspector stamp on the left receiver just behind the triggerguard. May 30, 2020 В· Just received my CMP 1911a1. Oct 19, 2013 В· Rock Island Arsenal was one of the US Ordnance facilities that rebuilt 1911/1911A1 pistols as well as many other functions. The arsenal rebuild mark is applied after finish May 5, 2010 В· I did some lookup after youre statement and found: Model of 1911A1, Military. There is an "RIA" marking on the right side of the frame as well, indicating this gun was reworked at the Rock Feb 28, 2010 В· The frame is from a Remington UMC pistol made in 1918 – it has the proper serial number, range inspectors stamp, and a very difficult to see eagle’s head stamp above the magazine release. Oct 19, 2013 В· The RIA stamp is for The Rock Island Arsenal (The Real One) which was a very active U. That's where all other rebuild stamps are placed like AA (Augusta Arsenal). Rainer Ordinance Depot; nor is theye anything about pistols being marked MR. Savage slide. The barrel is Mar 19, 2018 В· Lots of M1911s and A1s were reworked without rebuild marks. The parts could have been applied during the rebuild or could have been put on earlier at the unit or direct support level and was refinished along with the pistol during rebuild. Aug 13, 2009 В· It looks like a righteous arsenal rebuild to me. Grips are the original Keyes. The hammer looks like it could be a Remington Rand. All other components and features seem correct and the gun has no rebuild markings and has the original Jan 29, 2018 В· The MRT was hand stamped with individual stamps, grips off, the inspector stamps were a single stamp with all letters on the same stamp. M1911A1s have been examined in the Colt 1108xxx range and a Ithaca with SN 1224794 that had the RIA, FK, and ordnance bomb marked (Ordnance Bomb is usually found under the serial number). The slide stop is a 1911A1 type. I haven't seen anything that shows M1911/M1911A1 pistols going through an arsenal inspection/rebuild at Mt. All external markings are correct and accurate per Clawson, and the slide is a wartime replacement (as evidenced by an "M1911A1 U. Some of the pistols I have seen only has the RIA stamp on the right side under or around the serial number. Stans is right, rebuilds are getting scarce. If you see the RH marking on any other M1911A1 pistol it means the slide was replaced. The 'M1911A1' is in an odd position, usually in the forward part of the slide, so it's possible it was a hand stamp, but I don't remember seeing a RR slide with M1911A1 on it so I can't say for sure the slide didn't come that way if it were supplied as a replacement part. Jan 17, 2015 В· Here is an arsenal rebuild I picked up because it is has a 1941 Colt receiver with a scarce CSR accpetance stamp. Jun 3, 2020 В· Please post your questions and comments regarding CMP 1911 Sales here! Welcome to the new 1911 sub-forum, we at CMP 1911 / CMP, appreciate your support. I expect it is an 'arsenal rebuild' stamp, but I'm not Feb 14, 2014 В· Pictures would help. Slide has 7790314 drawing number and 53397 mfg number for Numax electronics. So, when round three of M1911A1 sales was announced in September of 2022, I jumped in. It has AU stamped on the left side just above the trigger guard. Who or what is AU? This pistol has an Ithaca slide and Remington Rand frame. 38 Super; Colt Concealed Carry Officer’s; Colt National Jul 27, 2009 В· fair price for a 1911A1 arsenal rebuild? I'm looking at buying my first 1911. Is this considered the Small G or Large G and how incorrect is it for my gun. Jump to Latest but the pistol does have the "AA" Augusta Arsenal rebuild stamp on the left side of the frame. Colt had its own serial num¬bers assigned within this range, but in addition, Colt duplicated Ithaca’s serial numbers between 865,404, and 916,404 as well as Remington Rand’s between 916,405 and 958,100, and US&S’s between 1,088,726 and 1,092,896. 45 ACP (PR57138) Description: " This typical WWII Augusta Arsenal 45ACP Model 1911 rebuild consists of a circa 1918 Colt Model 1911 frame married to a Remingotn Rand Model 1911A1 slide. Looks unfired since rebuilt. The question in my mind of course is how they determined my pistol was good to go without having torn it down completely to inspect every component These are all the markings on it. Francis L. TIA for any info. Sep 30, 2023 В· Colt 1911A1 SN 881948 was manufactured in early 1943, and paradoxically duplicated the Ithaca SN range. Dec 3, 2018 В· Hello, I was thinking about buying a 1911A1 SN1450xxx and according to what I could find the frame is from Ithaca and manufactured in 1943 but the slide is marked Remington Rand. Oct 27, 2013 В· I'd say that's a good rebuild. I think you did fine. Oct 18, 2023 В· ZERO stamps had been applied to any pistol {excepting the stamps previously applied from the 1950s-1980s era}. Note the SA arsenal rework stamp on the right side above the trigger. This pistol was in the same shipment as 12647734 that can be seen here. 1943 Production (GHD marked) SN 867,000 to about 1,155,000. Nov 2, 2006 В· Can you tell if the AA stamp is applied after the finish? There should be some bright or burnished metal there where the dies abraded the finish. Rock Island Arsenal was one of the US Ordnance facilities that rebuilt 1911/1911A1 pistols as well as many other functions. 1911A1. Does the P on the frame match the P on the slide ? Sent from my XT1585 using Tapatalk Feb 16, 2024 В· I have a Mount Rainier “MR” marked Remington Rand, and it is one of the favorites in my collection of wartime 1911 pistols. With the exception of the mainspring housing the finish appears to be dark grey parkerizing on my screen. When I was a young E-3 ass't company armorer in the 82nd Abn, I was detailed numerous times to take 1911A1s and M16A1s (along with M60s, mortars, etc) to the 782nd Maint Bn for rebuild. Back in the late 1990s and early into the Y2K decade the CMP was shipping thousand of freshly rebuilt M1s that came right of of US depots and storage facilities. May 8, 2006 В· Looking for information on the Frame markings on what looks to be a RIA Rebuild 1911. The "FK" marking is for Frank Krack, Chief of inspection at RIA. It shows all signs of being a WW2 Springfield Armory rebuild. Mar 21, 2021 В· The Robert C. There are other types and locations of rebuild marks. Jul 6, 2019 В· The men have some really nice WW-2 period firearms. Feedramp has seen a few rounds riding up to the chamber. 45; 1911 Army; 1911A1 Pistol; 1918 Vintage Army 1911 Colt; 1941 Colt 1911A1; A Texas Ranger M1911; Colt 1910; Colt Ace . A RR will have inspector's mark of 'FJA' on the receiver behind the trigger and a small 'P' below that. This pistol has a 1911 frame and Ithaca Slide. Apr 23, 2023 В· I didn't have a WWII 1911A1 Colt, so I picked one up. The general consensus is that it is a parts gun. The only thing is I can not find any information on AU. Military installation. May 16, 2018 В· M1911A1 Looking to clarify the history on Ithaca M1911s ?/ M1911A1. He was the Oct 8, 2024 В· I missed out on round one and round two of Model 1911A1 pistol sales when they were done. Mar 20, 2023 В· This Ithaca M1911A1 was shipped to the Supply officer at the Naval Supply Depot in Oakland, California on February 17th, 1944 in a 7,500 gun shipment. It is "United States Property" marked, has the correct "FJA" inspection stamp, and has the faintest remnants of a cross-canon military cartouche on the right side of the frame. Dec 7, 2005 В· The small stamp (crossed cannons) is the original Ordnance Dep't acceptance stamp. A few years ago, I almost bought a minty Remington Rand with a post war barrel with RIA stamp under the serial number. The hammer is the wide beaver-tail sort issued on early, 1911 pistols. Sep 6, 2010 В· The arsenal rebuild remains a fertile field for M1 research as well as a relatively low cost niche for the M1 collector. So right away, if your serial number says it’s a 1918 Colt, and it has a parkerized finish, you know that you have an arsenal rebuild. The inspector stamp of FJA is for Colonel Frank J. These pistols appeared to be all original and had not been reworked. Barrel is new Colt, parkerized. The gun has an overall blue-brown finish. 1911, 1911A1, 1917 pistols and 1903 rifles were refurbished at the Arsenal. Jun 12, 2024 В· That initial one I finally got turned in was literally running out of room on the frame for rebuild date stamps… It had begun life as a WWI weapon, got rebuilt during the late 1930s, once during WWII, once after WWII, then got re-issued in Vietnam, and rebuilt the final time sometime during the early 1970s. The slide with a P also suggests the same conclusion, as does the signs of heat Jul 15, 2019 В· From 1938 onwards the RH side of the slides was unmarked except for replacement slides which were marked M1911A1 US ARMY. Most of the LEADs were fairly recent and I wouldn't be surprised to see other rebuild marks on it. Frame has OG stamp for Ogden Arsenal rebuild. The Arsenal rebuild stamps were applied after the weapon was refurbished, and should appear burnished. Feb 25, 2024 В· Recently acquired this nice Colt. Sep 16, 2024 В· Hi, I have a colt 1911a1 1724430 that I received from cmp it’s a field grade matching colt frame and slide, no rebuilt stamps, only thing that’s not colt is barrel which is marked s&w I am very happy with it, my question is about the finish, has it been refinished or is this finished original park, or could it be a parko lub, it’s in serial range when they did park lub, I believe it’s This Ithaca shipped in 1943 and has the Rock Island Arsenal "RIA stamp along with inspectors initials "FK" for Frank Krack stamp. The Flaming Bomb marking was also applied during the rebuild procedure at RIA. It sounds like the pistol has had a 1911A1 slide added. It doesn't affect value any more than any other rebuild mark. Frank Krack was Assistant Foreman of the Inspection Division at RIA from September 17, 1941 until he retired on July 19th, 1946. Jan 14, 2022 В· The barrel was made by Colt who was a prime supplier for many replacement parts. Y. Just the right wear and look for a shooter. Not for condition certainly, but the intrigue of how a pistol manufactured so late in production at the end of WWII managed to end up going through an Ordnance Depot like Mount Rainier, which was only rebuilding 1911’s for a short period immediate post-war, yet it Mar 13, 2005 В· At a recent gun show here, there was an arsenal rebuild with a later Colt 1911A1 frame and an A. S. Looks like it was rebuilt then parked on a shelf, I don't have any documentation but I'm guessing sold through the DCM in the early sixties. Also, the observed markings for inspection/rebuild tend to be on the right side of the receiver. No rebuild marks, but the slide is a later replacement. M1911A1 pistols were parkerized originally and had bakelite grips. Jul 14, 2005 В· It was in use until the closure of the Arsenal in the mid-1950s. Mar 1, 2019 В· Stamped markings on Colt 1911A1 trigger guard Jump to Latest 4K views 4 replies 3 participants last post by *2Trooper Mar 2, 2019 Aug 19, 2006 В· US Military Issue M1911 and M1911A1 Pistols; arsenal rebuild; Tha SA stamps tells it had a rework at Springfield Armory and the ANAD 5 75 stamp tells it had Jun 7, 2014 В· For reference, this is a Colt manufactured 1911A1 SN 1676XXX. issue parts that it may have been put together by some unit armorer somewhere. Cutoff for round three of sales was initially set at September 30, 2022. Aug 9, 2009 В· The finish is an old gray/green parkerized finish that seems identical to other WWII era M1911A1's that I have seen and seems legit. The Left top slide is stamped Ithaca Gun Co. It is not for augments, slander, ugly comments, bad mouthing and such. pistols produced with nickel finishes. None of them have any Augusta Armory rebuild rifles! I have never seen a Augusta Armory rebuild in the extensive post museum or local museum's in the area. Atwood. Jan 18, 2022 В· Not a GI NM piece - it's a post-WWII rebuild, done at Rock Island Arsenal - the sights were added later. Apr 26, 2010 В· I have a 1911A1 that looks like an arsenal rebuild. Nice looking Colt barrel/bore. Jan 11, 2019 В· This sounds more like a CMP-inspired marking, like the 'cartouche' they put on the M1s they rebuild with civilian-made parts. 11/17/22 - This is a very nice example of a Remington Rand Model 1911A1 issued to the US military in 1944. Inspectors cartouche and Arsenal rebuild stamp examples These are some of the common exterior markings on the M1911 and M1911A1 pistols. However, the grip safety, and the trigger are the later 1911A1 design. It's a post war Rock Island Arsenal M1911A1 rebuild with Colt replacement slide and barrel. This sub-forum is for the enjoyment of our members. There is cosmoline in many areas of the frame/slide. Someone thought it was better off without a lanyard loop, oh well. It has a G stamp under the chamber. Apr 1, 2004 В· For example, I have a blued 1941 Colt M1911A1 that went through Rock Island Arsenal, and it was given the RIA/FK acceptance stamps despite being left in original condition and not refinished. For example, that Ithaca might be worth $2500 as an original pistol but maybe $1000 with the rebuild mark. Also found on barrels and slides. It is for the discussion, questions, technical information and sharing of ideas. Jun 28, 2015 В· Here is my Colt 1918 Transitional rebuild? has had the frame clearance cuts for the trigger to the m1911A1 frame mix of blued and parkerized parts. Around 1980 or so, my Cav squadron received some 'new' M1911A1s that had been recently rebuilt at Anniston - all were marked 'ANAD', with a date -'7-75' stamped around the trigger guard, and had new plastic grips. If you do you will be blocked from the Arsenal overhaul and inspection stamps: AA = Models 1911 and 1911A1" by Charles Clawsons (128617 - 133186). As a result guns with a rebuild mark will bring a bit more money than an otherwise equal example as you have. J. . First, if you encounter an M1911A1 – identified by the finger cutouts and/or the M1911A1 markings on the frame – and it has a slide made by Remington-UMC, Springfield or Savage, you know the slide is not original to the gun since the first two manufacturers only made M1911 pistols during WWI, and the latter only made M1911 slides. Mr Beard do you have any idea how many rifles were rebuilt there? This might send me off on a quest for just one more rifle! Oct 1, 2023 В· Colt 1911A1 SN 881948 was manufactured in early 1943, and paradoxically duplicated the Ithaca SN range. But its also a true G. 22nd January 2015, 06:40 #8 May 30, 2020 В· Just received my CMP 1911a1. As I mentioned, no arsenal rebuild stamp. Probably late 40's /early 50's vintage rebuild. Inc. Also, there were no M1911 or M1911A1 G. There are a few markings on it that do not add up. First, if you encounter an M1911A1 - identified by the finger cutouts and/or the M1911A1 markings on the frame - and it has a slide made by Remington-UMC, Springfield or Savage, you know the slide is not original to the gun since the first two manufacturers only made M1911 pistols during WWI, and the latter only made M1911 slides. (I only happened by chance to observe the return of these "JAF" inspected pistols when I came across a group of soldiers unpacking the 1911s and looking them over and removing their hangtags, which were discarded). Note that the markings are not shown to scale. Ithaca, N. Ithaca was the only manufacturer to use those slides on new pistols, and those are known to collectors as "double stamp" Ithacas. Dec 7, 2018 В· I've seen the 'LEAD' at the same place on a few pistols. If you do you will be blocked from the Jun 20, 2023 В· Identification help - Ithaca 1911A1. I. Serial number 477xx7 (the two digits hard to make out most likely due to being lightly struck and the frame looks to have been pretty heavily blasted before being refinished and also due to picture quality). The purpose of this section is to provide a reference that will help evaluate a M1911/1911A1 as to whether or not it is in its original configuration and it has the proper parts for its serial number range. Army" stamping on the right side of said slide). Jan 8, 2019 В· 1911A1 Rebuild stamp Jump to Latest 385 views 2 replies 2 participants last post by subpack Jan 8, 2019 Feb 2, 2018 В· So if you telling me that this Colt 1911A1 was rebuilt at the Mount Rainier Arsenal by someone with the initial "T" what happened to the original inspector's initials?? From what I am seeing usually the arsenal rebuild stamp was not placed over the original inspectors stamp, it was done elsewhere on the firearm. 1943 Ithaca frame/bottom (1448XXX) with a Rem-Rand slide and a mint replacement barrel marked with an "S" and "P" on the side of the lug. Rebuild stamps are usually initials like AA for Augusta Arsenal, on the left side of the receiver in front of the trigger. There has been some speculation due to the all G. Feb 21, 2002 В· The thing that puzzles me is not all are marked with the ordnance bomb and inspector initials. I was able to confirm the JMG Monogram stamp coincides with the S. I expect it is an 'arsenal rebuild' stamp, but I'm not Mar 6, 2007 В· "Colt 1911 Augusta Arsenal WWII Rebuild . No Jun 17, 2014 В· Also in rebuild, barrels were commonly, but not universally replaced with new barrels which would not have had a British proof mark. RIA stamped with EB inspector stamp in the 90% condition range that sold for $900, with documentation of some sort from 1952. 22; Colt Ace Olympic Issue; Colt Commander . Hosmer used this stamp on Colts 1911s and M1917 revolvers from 1911 to 1919. And, the Springfield Armory replacement barrels were used long after WW2. Consider: After correction of early production problems and quality consistencies, their skilled upper management group reversed all trends to build some of the best quality Service Pistols 1911A1 Firing Cycle Animation; Historic 1911 Guns “Damn Sight” Poster from WWII “Tunnel Rat” in Nam; 1905 Colt . It is a 1945 mfr Remington Rand frame with GI replacement slide. Comparing it to various pictures of an intact Remington UMC pistol, it is apparent not much else is original. Jun 9, 2009 В· Is there any distinguishing a WWI-1986 M1911a1 between Army and USMC ownership? I'm kind of getting the itch to add on to the collection, and having been in the Marine Corps I have my preference. I've posted this gun before both here and on the 1911 Forum. The M1911A1NM was built from new - or close to new - pistols in storage - not from rebuilt ones. biojn gomsc idpbfq katt ruhmua tjm vycmop vpo khdtfm mvarfi